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		<title>Comment on Academic blog links by harbans-lal-gera</title>
		<link>http://melete.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/academic-blog-links/#comment-2776</link>
		<dc:creator>harbans-lal-gera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harbans Lal Gera - I know this is off topic but need help with Vista

Thanks,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scribd.com/doc/8765936/Harbans-Lal-Gera&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Harbans Lal Gera&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harbans Lal Gera &#8211; I know this is off topic but need help with Vista</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
<a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/8765936/Harbans-Lal-Gera" rel="nofollow">Harbans Lal Gera</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Alternatives to the traditional lecture by Greg Front</title>
		<link>http://melete.wordpress.com/2006/06/01/alternatives-to-the-traditional-lecture/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Front</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, i just wante to say that you have very interesting education blog.

Keep up the good work!

P.S. I didn&#039;t knew where to write it so i wrote here, i hope this is not a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, i just wante to say that you have very interesting education blog.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
<p>P.S. I didn&#8217;t knew where to write it so i wrote here, i hope this is not a problem.</p>
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		<title>Comment on QUT and AOIR conferences by See Bron&#8217;s brain explode&#8230; &#171; Melete Online</title>
		<link>http://melete.wordpress.com/2006/10/04/qut-and-aoir-conferences/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>See Bron&#8217;s brain explode&#8230; &#171; Melete Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I haven&#8217;t yet responded to Jim&#8217;s comments about methodology and philosophy in course structures, although I intend to, as soon as have a brain cell or three to spare  I&#8217;ve also noted a few interesting things over the past week but haven&#8217;t had the time to work them into a coherent  blog post, so in my next post I&#8217;ll just put a few snippets for consideration. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I haven&#8217;t yet responded to Jim&#8217;s comments about methodology and philosophy in course structures, although I intend to, as soon as have a brain cell or three to spare  I&#8217;ve also noted a few interesting things over the past week but haven&#8217;t had the time to work them into a coherent  blog post, so in my next post I&#8217;ll just put a few snippets for consideration. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should All Learning Professionals Be Blogging? by Jim Belshaw</title>
		<link>http://melete.wordpress.com/2006/10/05/should-all-learning-professionals-be-blogging/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Belshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Des, I really think that you captured two critcical points here.

You wrote: &quot;And there are many ways of blogging: not everyone has to write essays - there is a place for link blogs, preferably with some comments by the blogger.&quot;

As you know, I tend to write longer pieces. That&#039;s my style. But each morning, usually early, I spend 30 minutes touring my blog shortlist, clicking through on links to check. The blogosphere is a huge information screening device, with the link blogs being especially useful.

You also wrote:  &quot;A further consideration is the offline conversationof bloggers, the emails and IMs that zip around the globe between bloggers every day, not making it as blog posts, but informing and nuancing the conversation. You don’t get to be included in that part of the conversation unless and until you start blogging&quot;

Absolutely spot on. And I think that this has been the biggest surprise for me since I started blogging. It&#039;s actually a lot more than just nuancing the conversation, it&#039;s real friendship and information exchange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Des, I really think that you captured two critcical points here.</p>
<p>You wrote: &#8220;And there are many ways of blogging: not everyone has to write essays &#8211; there is a place for link blogs, preferably with some comments by the blogger.&#8221;</p>
<p>As you know, I tend to write longer pieces. That&#8217;s my style. But each morning, usually early, I spend 30 minutes touring my blog shortlist, clicking through on links to check. The blogosphere is a huge information screening device, with the link blogs being especially useful.</p>
<p>You also wrote:  &#8220;A further consideration is the offline conversationof bloggers, the emails and IMs that zip around the globe between bloggers every day, not making it as blog posts, but informing and nuancing the conversation. You don’t get to be included in that part of the conversation unless and until you start blogging&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely spot on. And I think that this has been the biggest surprise for me since I started blogging. It&#8217;s actually a lot more than just nuancing the conversation, it&#8217;s real friendship and information exchange.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should All Learning Professionals Be Blogging? by beachblogger</title>
		<link>http://melete.wordpress.com/2006/10/05/should-all-learning-professionals-be-blogging/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>beachblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bronwyn wrote: &quot;I don’t necessarily think that all learning professionals/academics should be actively blogging - blogging is not for everyone, and it takes a while to develop one’s blogging ‘voice’...&quot;

Maybe it&#039;s not a should, but I would strongly recommend it. My experience in discussing what comes up in the blogosphere is that I have a qualitatively different conversation with other bloggers than I do with people who &#039;know about&#039; blogging,  or even read blog posts occasionally. Maybe not unlike the conversations musos have with one another, sportspeople etc. And there are many ways of blogging: not everyone has to write essays - there is a place for link blogs, preferably with some comments by the blogger.

A further consideration is the offline conversationof bloggers, the emails and IMs that zip around the globe between bloggers every day, not making it as blog posts, but informing and nuancing the conversation. You don&#039;t get to be included in that part of the conversation unless and until you start blogging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bronwyn wrote: &#8220;I don’t necessarily think that all learning professionals/academics should be actively blogging &#8211; blogging is not for everyone, and it takes a while to develop one’s blogging ‘voice’&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s not a should, but I would strongly recommend it. My experience in discussing what comes up in the blogosphere is that I have a qualitatively different conversation with other bloggers than I do with people who &#8216;know about&#8217; blogging,  or even read blog posts occasionally. Maybe not unlike the conversations musos have with one another, sportspeople etc. And there are many ways of blogging: not everyone has to write essays &#8211; there is a place for link blogs, preferably with some comments by the blogger.</p>
<p>A further consideration is the offline conversationof bloggers, the emails and IMs that zip around the globe between bloggers every day, not making it as blog posts, but informing and nuancing the conversation. You don&#8217;t get to be included in that part of the conversation unless and until you start blogging.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Academic blog links by Jim Belshaw</title>
		<link>http://melete.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/academic-blog-links/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Belshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 13:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this usefull. How did your staff courses go? Please let me know if you know of any other UNE staff with blogs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this usefull. How did your staff courses go? Please let me know if you know of any other UNE staff with blogs</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should All Learning Professionals Be Blogging? by Jim Belshaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Belshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 13:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for permission, Bronwyn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for permission, Bronwyn.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should All Learning Professionals Be Blogging? by Bronwyn</title>
		<link>http://melete.wordpress.com/2006/10/05/should-all-learning-professionals-be-blogging/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Bronwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,
yes - feel free to use photos. I publish them under a Creative Commons licence, permitting attributed, non-commercial use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,<br />
yes &#8211; feel free to use photos. I publish them under a Creative Commons licence, permitting attributed, non-commercial use.</p>
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		<title>Comment on QUT and AOIR conferences by Jim Belshaw</title>
		<link>http://melete.wordpress.com/2006/10/04/qut-and-aoir-conferences/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Belshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brnowyn, this post struck to the heart of some of the things I am starting to write about, although I think that we may in fact be in disagreement. To try to explain.

The internet world is information rich, although I have argued that this is patchy. So there is a case that people should be trained how to access this. The internet world allows for new ways of cooperative working and teaching. Again a case for training.

But does the internet world really affect the philosophy and core methodolgy of disciplines? I don&#039;t think that it does in any way.  My core complaint with much education is that it has a focus on process (how to do) as compared to what should be done and why.

To try to illustrate. When I started history at UNE we did a lot in first year on things like evidence, primary sources, documenting references. 

This is nuts and bolts stuff, things that you had to know. Quite a bit of it is now added to the secondary curriculum. You took this and learned the analytical processes through doing.

The philosp0hy and methodology courses in honours years were then, at least so far as the subjects I knew, very different.

If you take Dad&#039;s history of economic thought course it was all about concepts, assumptions and values. Starting with Hesiod&#039;s Works and Days, he traced through key economic concepts such as profit showing when it emerged and how it changed over time. 

Ted Tapp&#039;s philosopy of history course - still the university course I value most highly - looked at concepts such as causation, putting them in a broader context. The course was as much about philosophy as history.  

In both cases, you had to already have a sufficient grounding in the discipline to make sense of it all.

Don&#039;t know enough about current course structures to comment beyond this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brnowyn, this post struck to the heart of some of the things I am starting to write about, although I think that we may in fact be in disagreement. To try to explain.</p>
<p>The internet world is information rich, although I have argued that this is patchy. So there is a case that people should be trained how to access this. The internet world allows for new ways of cooperative working and teaching. Again a case for training.</p>
<p>But does the internet world really affect the philosophy and core methodolgy of disciplines? I don&#8217;t think that it does in any way.  My core complaint with much education is that it has a focus on process (how to do) as compared to what should be done and why.</p>
<p>To try to illustrate. When I started history at UNE we did a lot in first year on things like evidence, primary sources, documenting references. </p>
<p>This is nuts and bolts stuff, things that you had to know. Quite a bit of it is now added to the secondary curriculum. You took this and learned the analytical processes through doing.</p>
<p>The philosp0hy and methodology courses in honours years were then, at least so far as the subjects I knew, very different.</p>
<p>If you take Dad&#8217;s history of economic thought course it was all about concepts, assumptions and values. Starting with Hesiod&#8217;s Works and Days, he traced through key economic concepts such as profit showing when it emerged and how it changed over time. </p>
<p>Ted Tapp&#8217;s philosopy of history course &#8211; still the university course I value most highly &#8211; looked at concepts such as causation, putting them in a broader context. The course was as much about philosophy as history.  </p>
<p>In both cases, you had to already have a sufficient grounding in the discipline to make sense of it all.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know enough about current course structures to comment beyond this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should All Learning Professionals Be Blogging? by Jim Belshaw</title>
		<link>http://melete.wordpress.com/2006/10/05/should-all-learning-professionals-be-blogging/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Belshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 09:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bronwyn, I spent more time tonight with you. I will be adding a few comments to posts. But in the meantime, may I use some of your photos if I say where they come from and the context is right? I add the second because I don&#039;t want to use photos just because they illustrate a story in a general way, only where there is a generic connection between the photo and the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bronwyn, I spent more time tonight with you. I will be adding a few comments to posts. But in the meantime, may I use some of your photos if I say where they come from and the context is right? I add the second because I don&#8217;t want to use photos just because they illustrate a story in a general way, only where there is a generic connection between the photo and the story.</p>
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